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RE: Help Please. Aktiv Kapitol

Postby average_joe » Wed Nov 26, 2008 02:57:38 PM

Raymond,

Here is how i look at things. If your debt is a R9, why should someone pay the full amount if the R9 is not going to get reversed.
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RE: Help Please. Aktiv Kapitol

Postby Raymond » Wed Nov 26, 2008 02:52:55 PM

Joseph, Joseph, Joseph, I just dunno.

Readers might want to check out lawyer, Mark Silverthorn's website for a slightly better discussion of debt settlement ratios.

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RE: Help Please. Aktiv Kapitol

Postby average_joe » Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:52:07 PM

If a debt has gone R9 it's only worth 10%, anything more then that is a waste of money.
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RE: Help Please. Aktiv Kapitol

Postby Zacksdad » Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:32:31 AM

You can see how they can make lots of money. If they get just one payment of 50.00 for a 5.00 cost thats one hell of a good profit. Thanks for the target practice pic Ray.
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Help Please: Aktiv Kapital

Postby Raymond » Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:40:14 AM


From left to right; May Kristin Haugen, Scott Danielsen, Jan Husby, Erik Øyno, Håkan Bernhard and Tibor Veres.

Eric "the Red" Oyno & "The Boys." How can you not like these Vikings?

I think you are being very selfish. Eric Oyno, the Norwegian CEO of Aktive Kapital who bought up Portfolio Management Solutions [PMS] in 2005 needs a million krone Christmas bonus. If people like you don't pay up, how is he ever going to get that new yacht? He's already getting embarrased by Ted Rogers' 200 footer.

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The debt, previously assigned to Corporate Recovery, a 3rd party collection agency, was obviously purchased outright fairly recently in a large portfolio of stats barred debts. For a debt of this amount and age, they probably payed less than $5, or maybe even $1 or $2.

AK/PMS has no legal avenues against you since the debt has been stats barred for a long time. The only credit reporting recourse AK has is to put hard or soft inquiries on your file to blackmail/ manipulate into paying; something which they do with everyone.

The limitation period for court action back then was 6 years which also happens to be the same period for reporting bad debts to credit bureaus. Were the debt less than 6 years old, AK/PMS would also have listed it in the "Collection" sections of the Equifax and TransUnion reports. But since it more than 6 years from when it originally went into default with the original creditor, it is forever banned from being included in your credit reports WHETHER NOT YOU EVER PAY IT.

Negative tiems on credit reports stay there for 6 years from the "date of last activity." See my Nov. 11 post on the above link for details on why any susbsequent payments will NOT reactivate the account on the "trade" or "collection" sections of your credit reports.

If, for moral reasons, you decide to settle the debt, because it is so old and stats barred, one should not offer more than 5% to 10% - or 15% at the very, very most. AK will swear up and down they need 85% and not a penny less. And someone there may even be stupid enough to tell you you've just reacknowledged the debt by attempting negotiaton, but it's all a pile of hooey. The most they can do is continue to put hard inquiries on your file and for this you have to resort to other measures (See my previous posts about hard inquiries and AK).

It seems an offer of $100 to $200 should be plenty to settle a dinosaur account like this. Aktiv Kapital (aka collection agency Kapital) operates in 14 countries, but their recovery ratio in Canada is the lowest of all at 3%. Seeing as how they probably paid $5 or less for it, anything over $6 would represent a profit.

Any further problems? Call their ombudsman, Lorie Roberts at 1 866 764-7688 ext. 2536

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Help Please. Aktiv Kapitol

Postby phoenix123 » Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:56:51 AM

First off I Live in Ontario and have debt that I enquired in 1996 or 1998

Originally the debt was sent off to Corporate Recovery services and I recived a letter on 12-15-99
For the amount of 1124.16
which I did not respond to

Now this year in Oct. 2008

Aktiv-Kapitol contacted my work, I called back the number on the msg. and realized what it was,
They now want me to pay 1859.00 (interest incurred over the years)

I think if ppl can afford to pay the debt they incurred they should pay it.

But, I was very young unemployed at the time and have since been very careful with my credit. It was tough rebuilding my credit, and am at the age now where I am seriously thinking about a mortgage in the near future. Or something.. Is it possible to work out a deal with the collection agency to pay it back but work out some sort of deal that they do not report it to the credit bureau? I want to pay it back but don't want to have to live with it on my credit file for another 6 or 7 years and I certainly don't want them calling my work anymore What are my options at this point?

I have already told Aktiv Kapitol to communicate with me by letter mail and that I am unaware of any debt owing, Ater telling them to contact me only by mail they called my work again,and said they didn’t have an address to mail me at However.. After the first call from them I requested a copy of my credit report this time not from eqfax but from transunion and noticed that on the file there was 2 inquires from a collection agency under another name . (portfolio management). They have since sent me a letter. What do I do now?
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