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RE: Old Debt

Postby Buttons » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:47:41 AM

Thanks to everyone for their helpful (and humorous) responses, a special thanks to Gillian for her advice.
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RE: Old Debt

Postby Raymond » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:14:18 AM

FDR just laughs at people who had a stroke. They'd seize the guy's wheelchair (and probably his iron lung too, if he had one) - and I mean that quite literally - if they could get their hands on it. Monty took umbrage when I once posted a picture of the Nazi Party and referred it to it as collection agents in training.

It's easy to see why I said those guys would have made such excellent Nazis.

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RE: Old Debt

Postby gillian25 » Wed Feb 13, 2008 09:56:32 AM

I am speaking with him on the phone right now.

His story:
He owed money from a student loan that fell into collections when he had his stoke in 2004.

The nature of his disability found him unable to find paid employment and lives below the poverty level, currently on Provincial Handicap Benifits and Federal disability benifits. He also lives in subsided housing in Alberta.

He started receiving correspondence from a collection agency in regards to a student loan in 2005 that had gone into default. He phoned the agency back and explained his circumstances yet fell upon deaf ears as they continued to call him using scare tactics, name callling and threating to take him to court. Due to the stress this was causing him he informed his government support worker of the situtaion.
The support worker contacted the collection agency on behalf of him and they seemed to be more professional with her.
They stated that all they required was medical documentation from his doctor stating the nature of his disablitity and proof of inelegibity to seek payable employment at that time.
Documentation was submitted to the agency and all phone calls and correspondence seized and have seized since 2005.

His comment to Jaime the collector: Why do collectors bully and namecall people in hapless situations when the outcome can be easily resolved and they are aware of that? It dehumanizing to call someone who is struggling with maintaining a respectable quality of life a "deadbeat". Is Buttons a "deadbeat" for not acknowledging this past limitations debt possibly risking it returning to his credit report for 6 years. HELL NO.

His advice to Buttons is use the resources that are availible to you as a citizen of Canada. They can get the legal advocacy proceedures in order so you can get on with your quality of life you deserve. Some of these are Social workers, support workers, advocacy groups,human rights, groups pertaining to your injury or the federal government.
Have these agencies advocate on your behalf as unfortunately they are taken more seriously than the vulerable population.

good luck,
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RE: Old Debt

Postby Raymond » Wed Feb 13, 2008 09:50:58 AM

Buttons, just give FDR's president, Louis, a call at 1 866 763-3328, ext 452, over on 40 West Wilmott (down the road from Deanna Natale's). Ask him if he'll give you a ride in his new Audi A6.



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RE: Old Debt

Postby gillian25 » Wed Feb 13, 2008 08:52:03 AM

Buttons, if the debt is past the SOL I would not acknowledge this company at all. Now Jaime is definately going to disagree because his motives is to collect money.

"Buttons, just because a debt is stats barred, doesn't mean you're still not liable to pay for your debt."

YOU ARE NO LONGER LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO PAY YOUR DEBT.

then he says... (contradiction and name calling - a common unprofessional practice of collection agents)

"They can't sue you, and it's probably dropped off your bureau (CONTRADICTION TO THE ABOVE STATEMENT)
-- now admitting the debt isn't yours to avoid it makes you a deadbeat. I'm sorry but there is nothing more to be said there." (NAME CALLING)

HE ADMITS NOW IN HIS SECOND STATEMENT THAT THEY CAN'T SUE YOU, AND NOW STARTS CALLING YOU NAMES.

Jaime and not only Jaime many (but not all) collection agents assume too many things and react in an aggressive, unprofessional manner.

Your circumstances justify why you went into default. A friend of mine had a stoke and was in a similar circumstance. He had an outstanding student loan debt which they dismissed. He currently lives on disability and I don't recall how it was dismissed but I will call him for you to find out what avenues you can take.

In the meantime I would not speak to them at all. I will get back to you on this or perhaps I will have him post something on here for you.

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RE: Old Debt

Postby Buttons » Wed Feb 13, 2008 07:06:09 AM

Jamie, just so you know I may technically be a deadbeat, but 10 years ago I became disabled. I live on a disability pension, in a subsidized apartment and have no assets. Up until the time I became disabled I had a perfect credit rating. Sometimes (edited for language) happens.
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RE: Old Debt

Postby cadude » Tue Feb 12, 2008 08:21:37 PM

Buttons, just because a debt is stats barred, doesn't mean you're still not liable to pay for your debt.

They can't sue you, and it's probably dropped off your bureau -- now admitting the debt isn't yours to avoid it makes you a deadbeat. I'm sorry but there is nothing more to be said there.
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RE: Old Debt

Postby Buttons » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:40:13 AM

Their the ones, Ray.
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RE: Old Debt

Postby Raymond » Tue Feb 12, 2008 09:41:24 AM

Yes, but so what? The debt is SOL.

This wouldn't be FDR on 40 Wilmott Drive, Unit 10 in Markham, would it? They're currently working over a lot of the old CIBC stats barred debts.

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Old Debt

Postby Buttons » Tue Feb 12, 2008 09:35:15 AM

I have noticed on this website that some posters say when a collection agency (FDR) starts calling you about SOL expired debt you should not admit to owing the debt. Other posters say you should just tell the collection agency that the SOL on the debt has expired.
My question is: by telling the collection agency that the SOL has expired are you not admitting that you know exactly what debt they are calling you about?
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