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RE: I think we hit a nerve with a bill collector!!

Postby Bill K. Lecter » Thu Jan 15, 2009 08:56:05 AM

I always go by the old adage "You get more bees with honey than vinegar"
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RE: I think we hit a nerve with a bill collector!!

Postby average_joe » Thu Jan 15, 2009 08:46:44 AM

The way I look at it something is better then nothing even if it's pennies on the dollar. I thought bill collectors were there to help people out and not themselves. I can’t say all collectors are bad but for those who insult people just remember one thing if it weren’t for people falling in debt, you wouldn’t have a job to go to everyday. It pays to be nice on the long run.
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RE: I think we hit a nerve with a bill collector!!

Postby RichardC » Thu Jan 15, 2009 08:32:45 AM

Nice, Bill is one of the few collectors that realizes this concept and the value of a settlement vs. nothing.

For the most part, collectors get ticked off when they get pennies on the dollar becasue they look at it as effecting their commission cheques.
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RE: I think we hit a nerve with a bill collector!!

Postby Bill K. Lecter » Thu Jan 15, 2009 07:52:56 AM

The point I'm trying to make is that if these people aren't paying in the first place, having them pay something is better than nothing.
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RE: I think we hit a nerve with a bill collector!!

Postby average_joe » Thu Jan 15, 2009 07:25:36 AM

I know the commission rates stay the same. The higher the settlement the higher the commission cheque you will receive. I saw how bill collector’s reacted when I received my 10% settlements. They hated the fact I went over their head to the creditor to get the settlement I was looking for. I never had a collector tell me once I could be considered for a low perimeter settlement offer, if it wasn’t for me asking for it I wouldn’t know about it. I believe informing a person on here how they can save money is a good thing and we can’t inform everyone out there, but the few we can it makes a difference in their life. If you’re not worried about your commissions then why not offer people the lowest percentage possible instead of telling them the creditor wants 70 to 80%, why not tell them 10, 20 or 25% to settle.One thing is true you said it's not your money, but some collectors out there think it is.

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RE: I think we hit a nerve with a bill collector!!

Postby Bill K. Lecter » Thu Jan 15, 2009 07:21:14 AM

You said you think bill collectors would hate the fact that you're educating people. Definitely not!

More people calling to ask for settlements = a good thing, no matter how below parameters they are.

You seem to think we care if people pay less than they owe - we don't (it's not our money, after all). The commission rate stays the same...

To reiterate: a lot of debtors are simply avoiding collection agencies all together (= no payment whatsoever). If you then educate these same people that they can seek settlements and they do so, and follow through... This turns "no payment" into "some payment". This is a good thing, no matter what.
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RE: I think we hit a nerve with a bill collector!!

Postby average_joe » Thu Jan 15, 2009 07:04:07 AM

I think you misread.I never said it was a bad thing. It’s a good thing for people that owe and not so good for the collectors, the lower the settlement the lower the commissions.

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RE: I think we hit a nerve with a bill collector!!

Postby Bill K. Lecter » Thu Jan 15, 2009 06:59:18 AM

I think you're mistaken. If you are here educating people on how to settle their debts that means /more/ people will be contacting agencies attempting to pay their bills.

This is A Good Thing™.
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I think we hit a nerve with a bill collector!!

Postby average_joe » Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:16:54 AM

I think we hit a nerve with a bill collector. I think they hate the fact that people on here are finding out ways to settle their debts. I think they hate the fact more people are asking for forms to be considered for a low perimeter settlement offer. If people learn more on settling debts that means less collection agency will stay in business.
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